Author Topic: Bush: "Americans losing Jobs is a good thing." (Read 555 times)

rpm · « **on:** February 12, 2004, 05:03:39 PM »

Want to know where the Bush Administration's loyalty lies? It's not with American workers.

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Monday the chairman of the White House Council of Economic Advisers, N. Gregory Mankiw, commented on the practice of American companies' farming out production and services to low-wage countries like China and Mexico.

"Outsourcing is a growing phenomenon, but it's something that we should realize is probably a plus for the economy in the long run," Mr. Mankiw told reporters.

The reaction to those remarks was immediate and unfavorable — and has not gone away.

"The Bush administration said that sending American jobs overseas is a good thing for America and good for the economy," Senator John Kerry of Massachusetts, the front-runner for the Democratic presidential nomination, said in a statement issued by his campaign on Tuesday.

Today, the House minority leader, Representative Nancy Pelosi, Democrat of California, pressed the attack. "There are more than eight million — more than eight million — Americans who want to be working but are not," she said in a news briefing. "Many of them have lost their jobs due to outsourcing."

"I'm sure American workers are shocked by the president's embracing of outsourcing," she said a moment later.

Vote Bush: More Debt, Less Wages!

Frogm4n · « **Reply #1 on:** February 12, 2004, 05:05:25 PM »

CLASS WAREFARE CLASS WAREFARE!

Mini D · « **Reply #2 on:** February 12, 2004, 05:11:32 PM »

So... the recession was caused by outsourcing?

I have a pretty good idea why 8 million people are out of work instead of the 6 million that are normally out of work. Outsourcing ranks well down on the list. Unions, failed .coms and a nation-wide epidemic of bad investing in the late 90's is much higher. I wonder why they didn't bring that up?

MiniD

john9001 · « **Reply #3 on:** February 12, 2004, 05:14:48 PM »

bush did not say that, Gregory Mankiw said it , stop miss-quoting.

if all economists were laid end to end.............it would be a good thing.

ra · « **Reply #4 on:** February 12, 2004, 05:17:57 PM »

1st: It's true that offshoring is good LONG TERM.
2nd: Bush didn't say it, some admin official did.
3rd: Remember Clinton's little globetrotting friend Ron Brown? What kind of deals do you think he was setting up when he went overseas?
4th: There's nothing any politician can do about it except grandstand like the Dems are.

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #5 on:** February 12, 2004, 05:18:54 PM »

You guys say that like it's a simple topic.

Sure, they can have the jobs in here. It will cost the producers 3x as much even without paying for employees. It will then cost the producers 5x more to pay for one third of the employees it previously had.

So basically, you now have one third of those jobless with a job, but everything now costs 6x more then it did.

Nod · « **Reply #6 on:** February 12, 2004, 05:40:11 PM »

Yah.. I have to agree... the offshore thing is horrible..... Many of my friends parents are Jobless. I know 3 diffrent families that have been forced to live on the street.....It just ain't right, if Bush cared he'd at least attempt something instead of dancing around the subject....

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #7 on:** February 12, 2004, 06:14:03 PM »

If everything costs 5x more then it would, what would be the purpose of picking up new jobs?

They still wouldn't be able to pay for it.

FUNKED1 · « **Reply #8 on:** February 12, 2004, 06:16:21 PM »

Protectionism sucks.

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #9 on:** February 12, 2004, 06:43:36 PM »

It's just that anyway you look at it, you're going to take it up the...

The only way to create new jobs is to create new industries.

And what's the only untapped industry right now that's available?

kj714 · « **Reply #10 on:** February 12, 2004, 06:55:35 PM »

>"Today, the House minority leader, Representative Nancy Pelosi, Democrat of California, pressed the attack. "There are more than eight million — more than eight million — Americans who want to be working but are not," she said in a news briefing. "Many of them have lost their jobs due to outsourcing." <

It seems to me the Dems support globalization as much as anybody else. Didn't Bush just get in trouble with the WTO because he was pushing steel tariffs to protect American steelworkers jobs? What are the Dems proposing to stop it?

guttboy · « **Reply #11 on:** February 12, 2004, 07:08:34 PM »

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And what's the only untapped industry right now that's available?

OHHH that would be AH2 BETA TESTERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!:rofl

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #12 on:** February 12, 2004, 08:47:11 PM »

Space travel.

Imagine if only 1 million of those unemployed started working in some way or another towards space travel. We'd be doing it for real in years.

guttboy · « **Reply #13 on:** February 12, 2004, 09:58:25 PM »

lasersailor184,

Are you kiddin?????? Propellers and wings dont work too well in the vacuum of space!

I stand by the AH2 BETA TESTER job!!!!!!!:rofl

stiehl · « **Reply #14 on:** February 13, 2004, 12:22:17 AM »

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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Space travel.

Imagine if only 1 million of those unemployed started working in some way or another towards space travel. We'd be doing it for real in years.

replacing the aging infrastructure(communications, transportation,etc) or building new infrastructure to handle alt. energy sources...something that should of started already.